NAVAL DAGGER, MODEL 1837, THIRD TYPE, REASSIGNED TO INFANTRY IN 1915.
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MARINE DAGGER, MODEL 1837, THIRD TYPE, ASSIGNED TO INFANTRY IN 1915.
Black lacquered wooden handle, height 119 mm, diameter at the top 28 mm and 20.5 mm at the bottom near the guard.
Nut serving as a carrying ring and fastening of the brass blade, height 16 mm, diameter 14.5 mm.
Brass guard, width 63 mm, depth 26.5 mm, thickness 2 mm. It is stamped with a cable anchor and a star-shaped E, a stamp of acceptance of the material used by the French army in 1914/1918.
Triangular blade, length 168 mm, width at the base 18 mm, thickness at the base 8 mm.
Leather scabbard with brass chape, length 184 mm (scabbard with chape), width at the top approximately 23 mm.
Brass chape length 55 mm, width at the top 20 mm.
Weight 176 grams.
Good overall condition, blade with oxidation and signs of use, slightly bent tip, scabbard with loose stitching.
Period 1837-1918.
This dagger is called the Marine Dagger Model 1837 in the naval artillery manuals of 1850 and 1888, and is commonly associated with the 1833 system along with the sabre, axe, and pike of the navy.
Manufactured at the Châtellerault factory from 1837 to 1851, 23,931 units were produced. The dagger is no longer mentioned in the arms regulations after 1872.
On October 20, 1915, the naval arsenals transferred 10,500 daggers to the Ministry of War as trench weapons to equip the "POILUS."
The original scabbard, blackened with iron sulfate which corroded the blade, was replaced in 1854 by a metal scabbard.
Production until 1843 is stamped with Simon Wideman, a first-class inspector from June 1836 to December 4, 1843, and then with his successor Joseph Antoine Bisch until 1851, when production ceased. These stamps on the blade and guard are well documented.
The blade is made from or with the tools of the 1822 or 1847 bayonet.
Regarding the encountered models:
-1- First type models are considered the most easily identifiable and authentic with a Wideman stamp on the blade and brass guard, and an uncabled anchor on the guard and scabbard chape of the leather scabbard. The nut is made of steel. The guard fits perfectly to the blade.
(The same for those stamped by Bisch).
-2- The second type model is also authentic (it can be found with a number indicating the battery, marked on the handle and scabbard). There are no stamps on the blade, a cabled anchor is present on the guard and an uncabled one on the scabbard chape. The guard fits perfectly to the blade. The nut is made of brass and is found on other models.
-3- The third type model has exactly the same characteristics as the second type, regarding the blade and the blackened beechwood handle. The authentic scabbard is of the first model. The blade is not stamped. The guard, slightly different in shape, bears a cabled anchor and a star-shaped E, a stamp of acceptance of the material used by the French army in 1914/1918, and is less well fitted to the blade. The nut is made of brass.
This dagger is assigned to all warships at a rate of approximately 200 daggers per ship.
Black lacquered wooden handle, height 119 mm, diameter at the top 28 mm and 20.5 mm at the bottom near the guard.
Nut serving as a carrying ring and fastening of the brass blade, height 16 mm, diameter 14.5 mm.
Brass guard, width 63 mm, depth 26.5 mm, thickness 2 mm. It is stamped with a cable anchor and a star-shaped E, a stamp of acceptance of the material used by the French army in 1914/1918.
Triangular blade, length 168 mm, width at the base 18 mm, thickness at the base 8 mm.
Leather scabbard with brass chape, length 184 mm (scabbard with chape), width at the top approximately 23 mm.
Brass chape length 55 mm, width at the top 20 mm.
Weight 176 grams.
Good overall condition, blade with oxidation and signs of use, slightly bent tip, scabbard with loose stitching.
Period 1837-1918.
This dagger is called the Marine Dagger Model 1837 in the naval artillery manuals of 1850 and 1888, and is commonly associated with the 1833 system along with the sabre, axe, and pike of the navy.
Manufactured at the Châtellerault factory from 1837 to 1851, 23,931 units were produced. The dagger is no longer mentioned in the arms regulations after 1872.
On October 20, 1915, the naval arsenals transferred 10,500 daggers to the Ministry of War as trench weapons to equip the "POILUS."
The original scabbard, blackened with iron sulfate which corroded the blade, was replaced in 1854 by a metal scabbard.
Production until 1843 is stamped with Simon Wideman, a first-class inspector from June 1836 to December 4, 1843, and then with his successor Joseph Antoine Bisch until 1851, when production ceased. These stamps on the blade and guard are well documented.
The blade is made from or with the tools of the 1822 or 1847 bayonet.
Regarding the encountered models:
-1- First type models are considered the most easily identifiable and authentic with a Wideman stamp on the blade and brass guard, and an uncabled anchor on the guard and scabbard chape of the leather scabbard. The nut is made of steel. The guard fits perfectly to the blade.
(The same for those stamped by Bisch).
-2- The second type model is also authentic (it can be found with a number indicating the battery, marked on the handle and scabbard). There are no stamps on the blade, a cabled anchor is present on the guard and an uncabled one on the scabbard chape. The guard fits perfectly to the blade. The nut is made of brass and is found on other models.
-3- The third type model has exactly the same characteristics as the second type, regarding the blade and the blackened beechwood handle. The authentic scabbard is of the first model. The blade is not stamped. The guard, slightly different in shape, bears a cabled anchor and a star-shaped E, a stamp of acceptance of the material used by the French army in 1914/1918, and is less well fitted to the blade. The nut is made of brass.
This dagger is assigned to all warships at a rate of approximately 200 daggers per ship.
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